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Cliff Asness on Bubbles, Private Equity and His Research Greatest Hits

AQR Founder on the Most Influential Research of His Career

Cliff Asness returns to Excess Returns for a greatest hits tour through some of his most important and entertaining investing ideas.

We discuss bubble logic, today’s AI market comparisons, why volatility still matters as a risk measure, private equity “volatility laundering,” international diversification, market timing myths, pulling the goalie, and how machine learning is changing quantitative investing.

Main topics covered:

  • How the dot-com bubble created its own internal logic

  • Why Dow 36,000 and Cisco message boards captured bubble thinking

  • What investors learned, and failed to learn, from the tech bubble

  • How today’s AI market compares with the dot-com era

  • Why long periods of underperformance make even good strategies hard to stick with

  • Why Cliff still defends volatility as a useful risk measure

  • Why “cash on the sidelines” is a misleading market narrative

  • How private equity smoothing can make risk look lower than it really is

  • Why the private markets debate is not a short-term prediction

  • Why the “missing the best 10 days” argument against market timing is incomplete

  • Why international diversification can still matter after decades of US outperformance

  • What pulling the goalie can teach investors about risk, incentives and career risk

  • How machine learning changes quant investing without eliminating economic intuition

Timestamps:

00:00 Why certainty is dangerous in investing
04:58 Why Bubble Logic never became a book
10:18 Cisco, Yahoo message boards and bubble psychology
14:16 Rubble Logic and the lessons investors failed to learn
18:04 What today’s AI market has in common with the dot-com bubble
22:23 Why the long run can lie to investors
26:02 Volatility, permanent loss of capital and real risk control
30:19 Why there is no cash on the sidelines
34:00 Private equity, smoothing and volatility laundering
39:47 Why Cliff did not call the private markets downturn
43:19 The flaw in the missing the best 10 days argument
49:00 Why international diversification still works eventually
53:35 Why crashes are global but lost decades are local
57:30 Pulling the goalie and asymmetric risk
01:01:00 Why coaches and investors avoid optimal decisions
01:07:36 Machine learning, overfitting and economic intuition
01:10:50 Leverage, short selling and derivatives in quant portfolios
01:16:26 Where to follow Cliff Asness

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